I really loved
我真的非常喜欢
working with Powerpoint
使用Powerpoint
so that was my favorite software
所以那是我最喜欢的软件
I don't know if people use it anymore
我不知道现在人们是否还在使用它
yeah I think I think people know what it is but
但我认为人们知道它是干啥用的
essentially I I love to make slides and also
说实话，我其实挺喜欢制作PPT的
I learn to make animation
并且学会了去制作动画
so you could
所以，你可以
like make a slide and make things fade in and move
去做一个幻灯片，并且让其中呈现淡入淡出的动效去移动
at some point I was just exploring
大概在某个时间点，我开始去探索
what are the different things you could do
Powerpoint中
inside Powerpoint
不同的骚操作
and I think I was about 12
我觉得我那时应该只有12岁
and I I just went through all the menus
我...我浏览了PPT中所有
uh that were available um
可用的菜单
in Powerpoint and then I found the many
然后，我发现了可以对许多
um item that lets me
项目进行
uh record makers
录制的功能
so this is like a way to automate
这样就可以让每个幻灯片
like when you have to do something on each slide
自动化的去做相同的事情
you can like record it and then do it
你可以把你重复性的动作记录下来，然后再执行
and it generates code
而且它还会生成代码
so you can actually look at the code and you can see
这样其实你就能查看你想看的代码
and like I didn't know what
我当时并不知道
programming is like what code is
啥是编程
and
而且
I also didn't know English very well
那时英语也比较菜
so I didn't understand some of the words
所以我有时候看不懂一些词儿，不知道它在说啥
ah but I kinda just like
但我想要
tried tweaking it a little bit and try to
试着去稍微改动一下，并且尽力去
um to see what the what the result is
看最终会呈现的结果是否有变化
and it seem to make sense like I I think like I
这似乎看起来挺有用的，也让我
I kind of understood it
有点儿理解它的原理了
and
然后
then I started looking for information on the internet
我开始上网寻找信息、找教程
it was before YouTube or anything like this but
那时候还没有YouTube这样的学习平台
I just found
我仅仅通过
some resources I bought some books in paper
去购买一些纸质书还有翻译报刊杂志来
in translation
获取知识
and yeah
好吧
that's kind of how I gradually
那就是我渐渐
started learning programming
开始学习编程的方式
I didn't really know anything it was very slow to learn
我一开始什么都不知道，学起来很慢
um
嗯...
but I started hanging out as some uh program in forums
但当我开始去逛编程论坛之后
and I saw people helping other people
我看到好多人都在上面求助和解答
and I wanted to be helpful
我也想去帮助别人
and I also thought it's it's like a cool game
而且我觉得这样跟玩游戏一样挺酷炫的
like you know like
就好比说
can I figure out the answer to this question
我能找到这个问题的答案吗？
I kind of started to
我开始有点儿
to get involved with
沉溺于
with this forums
这些论坛之中了
and I started moderating one of those forums
并且参与运营管理其中一个论坛
and I got involved into open source a little bit
与此同时，我也在开源方面有所参与
I think I was about 15 at the time
我当时大约15岁
and
然后
I participated in a program that Google was sponsoring
我参加了Google赞助的一个项目
they had like a mentorship program for
他们面向学生
different open source projects for
为不同的开源项目
like students
提供导师计划
for high
也包括
school students that contribute to open source
提供给高中生
and so participate in that program
参与开源项目贡献的机会
and I think that that kind of helped
我觉得这应该对业界能有所帮助
yeah I didn't study programming
是的，我没学过编程
I tried going to university
我试着去进入高校深造一下
but it didn't work out very well
但成绩不太理想（不太容易进入心仪的大学）
and I
然后
I found the job
我就在要去上大学第一个暑假
in the first summer break and
找到了一份工作
then I stopped going to the university
因而，我就放弃了去上大学
I like it was an interesting experience the
那是一次挺有趣的经历
well like my first office first colleagues
我认识了我的第一同事，有了第一间办公室
it was an outsource in company
那是家外包公司
so we were just doing whatever the client wanted
所以我们只是按照客户的要求做事情
like our clients were most financial firms and
并且我们当时的客户大部分是金融公司（金主爸爸）
usually
通常来说
we would fix
我们都是去
like the software that somebody else has created
接一些前人丢给我们的“屎山”项目
before us so we were given like projects that were
所以我们接受的都是些
completely incredible
完全超乎想象的
very hard to understand
晦涩难懂的祖传代码
and then we needed to like
然后我们需要去
bring right the
填这些坑
like pieces of them or at least understand like
最起码理解那些“屎山代码”
what this code is doing
写的是啥吧
and like how do you
而且还得在
change the feature without completely breaking it
不完全破坏它的情况下保证功能
and I think that was
我觉得
that was a very interesting experience because
那真的是件“有趣”的事情（微笑）
I think it helped me understand how
因为，我觉得它帮助我
code can change over time
了解到代码随时间
level of mistakes people can make
变化而产生技术债务导致的错误堆积水位
at some point I had to actually print out
有一次，我不得不打印出
like there was a really really long file with uh
一份非常非常长的文件
like 30,000 lines
它大约有30,000行
that I I didn't understand what it was doing
我不知道它实现的业务逻辑
so I had to print it out on paper
所以我不得不将它打印在纸上
and I actually like put it on my desk
事实上，我还把它放在桌子上
uh like it took the whole desk
然后，整个桌子居然都被铺满了（你敢信？）
and I was just like
接着
marking pieces in it with them with
我用铅笔
with uh with a pencil
在上面标记部分
um but I think they they gave me some um
但我认为那给了我一些
like good
切身
understanding of what it actually feels like to
体会，那就是在软件开发中的真实
to work in software
工作场景
and so I think that was very valuable
所以我认为那是非常有价值的
even though I wouldn't want to
但我真的不想
like work on legacy software like this
在有历史债的软件项目中
as much anymore
再来一遍了
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