明亮-2024年5月推文5-你能绝对确定现在这不像是在梦中吗?

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你能绝对确定现在这不像是在梦中吗?

读者:我知道这是无法验证的。我也不认为“我的角色”是真实的。但这就意味着只有我的“观点”才是真实的,对吗?对于读到这篇文章的每个“观点”来说,这怎么可能同时成立呢?

BeingIs:你所说的一切看起来都是真实的。看似有人物或角色。看似他们还是有观点的。从心智的角度来看,所有现象都显得非常真实。在梦中你也可以体验“是一个角色”和“角色是有观点”的。虽然这些现象看似很真实,但实在就是这回事吗?换句话说,它们真的是你想象的那样吗?感觉真实就意味实在吗?这才是值得细细品味的微妙之处。

读者:我明白你在说什么。 “观点”或简单的“心智”的表象并不是实在的。意识来来去去。而自己却是先于/超越的意识的。我明白这可能是一个被识别为“存在意识”的问题。虽然很接近,但它不是实在的。什么都不是却看起来像是一切。

BeingIs:真的是“每个人”都在读这篇文章吗?多样性的假设仅仅是心智的能量效应投射。梦中也有“每个人”吗?梦中有“你”这个角色吗?

读者:没有,但这是一个困难的类比,因为对于梦来说,我们有“睡着的我”来作为参考。在清醒的经验中,没有“超越的自己”可供参考。但是,是的,我同意所做的假设是相同的。我们无从得知。

BeingIs:当正在经历梦经验时,不会发现“我在睡觉”这样的参照的,心智对梦经验的解释就像心智解释当下为“正在体验白天经验”一样。只是当梦经验切换后,你才会发现“正在睡觉”。看看当下吧,你能绝对确定现在不是类似于做梦吗?你能吗?你不能。

“参照”是心智的典型运作功能。如果不做各种各样的参照,心智就无法运作了。但这就像抓空气一样,它试图建立的所有参考点都无法确定成立,因此都是无效的。

所以,确定参照物和建立参照体系都只是心智的假设出来的虚幻现象。别把这当真了。

Can you be absolutely certain that it is not like in a dream right now?

Reader: I get that it’s unverifiable. And I wouldn’t assume only ‘my character’ is real either. But this would have to mean that only my ‘Point Of View’ is real then, correct? How could this be simultaneously true for every ‘point of view’ that reads this?

BeingIs: All of what you said are seemingly real. There seem to be characters or roles. There seem to be point of views. All of the phenomena seem very real as far as from the Mind’s perspective. In your dreams you can experience “being a character” and “having points of view” too. Although the phenomena seem very real, are they substantially the case? In another word, are they actually the cases that you think they are? Does real-ness mean actual? That is the subtlety worthy of savoring.

Reader: I see what you’re saying. The appearance of ‘point of view’ or simply ‘mind’ is not the actual. Consciousness comes and goes. You are prior/beyond. I see how this could be a hang up identifying as ‘presence-awareness’. While close, it’s not actual. Nothing appears as everything.

BeingIs: Is there actually “everyone” reading this? The assumption of multiplicity is projected by the energetic effect of the Mind only. Is there every one in dreams? Is there a “you” in dreams?

Reader: No, but it’s a difficult analogy because with dreams we have the ‘me that’s asleep’ to make a reference to. With waking life there is no ‘me that’s beyond’ to reference. But yeah I agree the assumptions made are the same. We cannot know.

BeingIs: While the dreaming experience is being experienced, there is no reference of “me sleeping”, the Mind interprets the experience exactly like you are experiencing day light experiences right now. Only after dreaming experience is switched out then you realize that you were sleeping. Look at right now, can you be absolutely certain that it is not like in a dream right now? Can you? You can't.

"Making reference" is a typical function of the Mind. The Mind can't operate without making all kinds of references. But it's like grasping for air, none of the referencing points it tries to establish stand on its own, thus, invalid.

So, making references and establishing references are just illusions or seeming. Don't take such seeming seriously.

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