Oftentimes as an actor, you're asked to or expected to make sense of something for the audience. For me, cinema is more a place where your unformed thoughts and feelings, collect into a collective space and through the narrative. They're off... you're offered a pathway into insights, but it's not to ask you to think or feel something. And that's what I loved about Tar is that there's no right or wrong way to view the film.
作为一个演员，很多时候你被要求或期望为观众找到某种意义。对我来说，电影更像是一个地方，你未成形的思想和感觉，通过叙事聚集到一个集体空间。你得到了一条通往洞见的途径，但这并不是要求你去思考或感受什么。这就是我喜欢《塔尔》的原因，不必用对错的方式来看待这部电影。
In order to truly create an ambiguous character, you have to hold two opposing ideas in your mind at the same time. Because we often look at characters and women in film have suffered from this where we have to understand them, we have to relate to them, we have to like them that they can't do unexpected, unpalatable or complicated things that they can't hold that ambiguity within them.
为了真正创造一个模糊的角色，你必须同时在脑海中持两种相对的想法。因为我们经常观察角色，会发现电影中的女性一直受到这种影响，我们必须理解她们，我们必须与她们建立联系，我们必须喜欢她们，因为她们不能做出乎意料，令人不快的或复杂的事情，她们无法保持内心的模糊性。
I think the idea that one female character represents all of female experience is a very... I was going to say old-fashioned one, “women are not a monolith”. I thought my use by date when I stepped in front of the screen as 25 year old, it was five years. And of course there's been trailblazing women behind and in front of the camera who have kept pushing that used by date beyond that. They've pushed the possibilities of what women can play.
我认为一个女性角色代表所有女性经验是一个非常... 过时的看法，“女性不是一个铁板一块”。当我25岁站在屏幕前时，我认为自己的银幕寿命是5年。当然，在银幕的前后都有一些出色的女性，她们不断地把这个寿命延长到这个期限之外。她们推动了女性可以扮演任何角色的可能性。
What attracts me to a role is the strangeness of the ask and the potential quality of the conversation of the people that you're going to be spending time with. Because film it's a temporal medium and so it takes a lot of time to prepare, to shoot, to talk about. And so you have to be pretty in love with the ideas of the film, with the people that you're making it with and the range of the character.
一个角色吸引我的地方在于你提出问题的陌生感，以及你将与之共度时光的人的潜在谈话质量。因为电影是一种暂时的媒介，要花很多时间来准备、拍摄和探讨，所以你必须非常喜欢电影的理念，喜欢和你一起拍电影的人，喜欢角色的范围。
And sometimes you know you can die on page nine, and sometimes you are the one who is most propulsive character in the narrative, those things are immaterial to me.
有时你知道自己会在剧本第九页死去，有时你是故事中最重要的角色，但这些对我来说都无关紧要。
But in the case of Lydia Tar it was being in dialogue with Todd Field. And I think that the vastness and dangerous quality of the questions that the script held, that's the exciting thing when you can connect into and you never know whether this is going to happen or not. But you connect into the zeitgeist but then you're also making something that's going to stand the test of time.
就莉迪亚·塔尔而言，它是与陶德·菲尔德的对话。我认为剧本中的广阔性和危险性问题，是令人兴奋的事情，当你融入其中时，你永远不知道这是否会发生。但你融入了时代精神，同时你也做出了经得起时间考验的东西。
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